Blood on the Clocktower

[starschwar]

Agent's logic seems sound. I can't imagine how he'd correctly deduce the role my ability indicates that he or Aragorn have, but I'll remind you all how bad I am at keeping the rules straight on this thing. That said, as of now, I am convinced of Agent's innocence. That does not preclude Aragorn from also being innocent as well, but Agent does make a compelling case. I want to hear any objections to this or alternative theories before I vote.

[Null]

I think we need to slow down a bit here because we’re starting to jump to conclusions.

Jass shooting Duck and nothing happening tells us Duck isn’t the demon, but it doesn’t automatically make him a minion. That feels like a big leap unless I’m missing something?

[Jassassino]

Feel relatively confident in Agent's deduction, he's not wanting to be overt but reason (not necessarily definite) to trust him is fully present. He's come to the same two players as myself in who's got a copy of The Satanic Bible beneath their pillow, so will preload my 'Yes' vote for Aragorn if Agent's previous posr counts as a nomination.

[Dirty Duck]

I didn't want to role reveal until I had actually got a positive hit while using it but I'm the fortune teller.

I investigated Jass and Aragorn on night 1, and Jass and Null on night 2. It might seem a waste to involve Jass both nights but I'm used to mafia and wanted the ability to be more concrete if the result came back positive so I decided I'd use Jass as a constant to make it a controlled experiment.

This is why I trusted who I trusted on Day 1 and didn't go for Jass after he nominated a player who had been implied to be innocent, an allowance I didn't extend to Null. It's also why I'm so confident in Null's innocence today and tried to pre-address how Annoying Prick's death could be a set-up to sow doubt about his soldier claim.

With all that being said, no to Aragorn. Even if he were to be the minion, he isn't the demon.

I've typed this on the tube with no internet so I may have missed some recent responses and I'm about to go into work so unsure when I can next check the thread, but what I will say is

IF THE MONK IS ALIVE, PLEASE PROTECT ME TONIGHT

[Agent]

Let's look at the possible scenarios if anyone needs more convincing, from most to least likely. 

1) I know Star/Jass are innocent. Star knows i'm innocent. Jass and Null role claimed honestly. Duck can't be the demon as Jass tried to shoot him, Prick can't because he's dead, leaving only Aragorn. If Duck's role claim is true (it isn't), this still only leaves Aragorn/Prick as demon/minion. The most likely. 

2) Same as above except Null is the demon. He claimed soldier because who knows. Possible. Null knows if he's the demon or not. 

3) There is no demon and Wayno is playing a devilish trick on us for keks.

4) I'm lying because i'm the demon/minion. I'd have to be partnered with Star or Jass, and both of us would have to lie about roles and be lucky no one else has them.

5) My information is wrong because i'm the drunk. Possible if the minion is the baron, which necessitates a second outsider, so who is that? Follow this scenario yourself. The only way it even logically works is if Star/Aragorn are the culprits. 

I nominate Aragorn unironically this time. GGs, not much you could have done.

[Wayno]

@Aragorn has been nominated. What is your defence?

[Aragorn]

This is not my defense, but I need to catch up with the decent chunk of information since last night & i'm at work. Just give me a few hours.

[Dirty Duck]

4) I'm lying because i'm the demon/minion. I'd have to be partnered with Star or Jass, and both of us would have to lie about roles and be lucky no one else has them.

5) My information is wrong because i'm the drunk. Possible if the minion is the baron, which necessitates a second outsider, so who is that? Follow this scenario yourself. The only way it even logically works is if Star/Aragorn are the culprits. 

I nominate Aragorn unironically this time. GGs, not much you could have done.

All I know is that Aragorn isn't the demon. I don't know that you are, but you're right that it's a possibility and potentially one that makes more sense than others you listed. That being said I don't actually know if Aragorn is innocent, much like anyone else I've investigated he could be the minion. But the minion is not our highest priority, we only win if we kill the demon. We shouldn't be focusing our day kills on people who at best are minion.

[Annoying Prick]

Maybe I'm stupid but I'm not even sure what role Agent is claiming, I just see him confidently asserting that his role is somehow self-evident. Going to need more context before taking Star's word for it.

[Null]

I have thoughts but I need to see how ‘Gorn defends himself.