Blood on the Clocktower

[Dirty Duck]

Why would I mention my findings from the first 2 nights when they amount to three people being innocent who weren't under serious threat? That would be a very stupid thing to do as fortune teller and you're a good enough player to know that.

[Dirty Duck]

I was at work so couldn't respond to everything so:

The demon pair's hypothesis is that the culprits are me and Star, and we claimed some middling roles early. Plausible so far. Then Null is nominated by someone else and instead of letting the lynch proceed I change my mind and keep him alive for some reason. Despite knowing he's the soldier and that's the only way to actually kill him.

And why did you change your mind? Who prompted Null to reveal the information that made letting him die become a suspicious act?

You've said your ability doesn't really give you much advantage so why not straight up role claim? A less useful role if anything will make you a less likely pick for the demon kill and you can't be in any worse of a position than you are now surely. I'm your neighbour but my ability isn't based on who I'm sat next to so right now I have no info available about who you are, but I have reasons to trust certain people rn.

Only after that did you change your vote. Before that you didn't seem to care whether Null seemed suspicious or not, and actively said you didn't think he was.

I might as well mention that my "random" day one nomination wasn't entirely for jokes.



The demons scheming via PM system rules out some combinations that would be in contact with the GM via phone number/WhatsApp anyway (I don't know this obviously i'm just presuming). 6pm in Kuwait makes sense and it's also just something Aragorn would do. It's not much but it wasn't entirely random.

Why would Wayno's post make your nomination of Aragorn not random? It's also 3pm in the UK, and we've definitely all been playing the game around that time at some point. Aragorn is also a member that you've schemed with over WhatsApp before when you were both mafia in a chat with me, so by your same metagame logic Aragorn/Duck is one of those combinations that should be ruled out...unless you think we are especially enamoured with the PM system here?

He's I have no idea why they've been vague posting about it.

I assumed it was because Star had received the role as info in particular, so he didn't want to be too obvious and let on about it to prevent Aragorn early pre-emptively counter claiming.

I didn't mean early on, that made perfect sense. I mean the past few pages where people have been asking and nobody had been saying.

[Null]

I'm going to have to reconsider some friendships if this is incorrect, but given everything laid out I'm nominating Agent. I'm not incredibly confident. The empath claim is plausible. But the evidence and logic is much stronger and clean the other way.



In Dante we trust.

[starschwar]

It's entirely possible that Agent has been playing me (like a fiddle!), and I own that. I'm again offering to reveal what role I have, and which role I know that he or Aragorn have in turn. For now, I'm just sticking with my previous conclusion, mostly due to mental fatigue.

[Annoying Prick]

@starschwar You think Agent is the Empath, right? You're the washerwoman. It would be weird if you said anything else.

[Agent]

You've said your ability doesn't really give you much advantage so why not straight up role claim? A less useful role if anything will make you a less likely pick for the demon kill and you can't be in any worse of a position than you are now surely. I'm your neighbour but my ability isn't based on who I'm sat next to so right now I have no info available about who you are, but I have reasons to trust certain people rn.

I actually don't know why you said this (if you're the minion). Also don't know why you pointed out my soft claim and then clarified it again when the people who needed to see it were completely oblivious to it. If you're innocent why are you against the Aragorn vote? If it's not you it has to be Aragorn and Null.

I'm nominating Agent. I'm not incredibly confident. The empath claim is plausible. But the evidence and logic is much stronger and clean the other 

SMH.

It's entirely possible that Agent has been playing me (like a fiddle!), and I own that.  I'm again offering to reveal what role I have, and which role I know that he or Aragorn have in turn.  For now, I'm just sticking with my previous conclusion, mostly due to mental fatigue.

Everyone knows your role and my role. This game should be impossible to lose with you and I literally confirming each other innocent, I don't know how you're still confused. I know Jass is also innocent, which no one seems to dispute, and Prick was the first to die which only leaves three options. 

How come Prick can't vote btw?

[starschwar]

@starschwar You think Agent is the Empath, right? You're the washerwoman. It would be weird if you said anything else.

Yes to both.  If Agent is not the Empath, then it's Aragorn.  I believe Agent is innocent and stand by voting Aragorn.

[Jassassino]

@starschwar You think Agent is the Empath, right? You're the washerwoman. It would be weird if you said anything else.

Yes to both.  If Agent is not the Empath, then it's Aragorn.  I believe Agent is innocent and stand by voting Aragorn.

And Aragorn claimed (maybe haphazardly, without thinking about the implications of him being caught in a lie) Mayor. If StarSchwar is telling the truth, which I believe he is, Aragorn's statements directly contradict him. Unless a Baron is one of the minions and StarSchwar's info has malfunctioned as a result of actually being drunk, but we would honestly be stupid not to go for Aragorn as the lynch right now. It's vital to confirm info and potentially win this game IMO.

- Edit - Considering all roles have been claimed among us, unless someone is lying and is acctually a second outsider role, Star's info is most likely correct, and Empath is the role in play. Aragorn could be a Spy, assuming Max's role claim is true, but even if it's just a minion, I don't understand why we wouldn't lynch him? It would propel us along in the game and give us a lot of direct details about Star, Agent and Max who are all intrinsically linked in this circle of accusations. At least one of them is lying here, it just so happens that the Mayor claim makes least sense to me IMO.

[Null]

Okay, I’m retracting my nomination for Agent and nominating Aragorn. I think it’s the safest play now, even if it’s wrong.

Death is information, and Gorn on the block will give the clearest state of play going forward even if it’s “incorrect”. Jass is right.

[Annoying Prick]

I think executing Aragorn is the best option but deaths in this game don't automatically role reveal as in Mafia so at best we'll know he isn't the Imp and he'll still be able to lie and will still have one vote.