Mafia 1988: MGSF Legends

[Aragorn]

Fuck it, lynch Roy.

[Dirty Duck]

Agent and Duck are both super confident (and good) players and tbh I never feel comfortable when either of them are dictating town play.

Yeah much better to follow meandering and unconfident play. I'll be sure to say "hmm i really don't know. I'll wait until someone else comes forward with some concrete info" next time.

[Null]

I said no offence bro what do you want from me you've manipulated and gaslit me into fear, you should be proud

[bigboss88]

Roy: I'm not back motherfuckers, I'm just popping in here to tell you all how much I hate you all for shutting down my org.

6 players voted. 4 remaining.

[Dirty Duck]

I think Prick is Mafia. For reasons I've shared. I think if he survives the mafia are likely to disguise him tonight just to be safe so Gorn, investigate someone else tonight. But follow your gut, maybe you think they won't disguise him due to me telling you to investigate someone else, double bluff them if you think that's best.

I think Roger has come in, also Mafia, to put forward an alternate lynch train for Prick to hop on after starschwar didn't work out. This is so Prick doesn't appear to be hopping around trying to start a train on whoever will take, but to make sure there's an alternate train going on while Prick's is still somewhat small.

For this reason I think Roy is innocent, meaning that if I were right the final mafia would be out of Agent, weavo, and Null.

I trust Agent for now as I think he's playing with town interest in mind (despite being quite passive-calling for a counterclaim is something that appears town, but if he were mafia he'd know they're town, and so asking for a counterclaim isn't risky).

I think Null has played how I'd expect him to so far, and I don't necessarily think him not believing my theory means he's just defending Prick.

I think weavo is most likely, even with his explanation for lurking he's the only person to respond to Tibbs' vote for me by proposing Tibbs could be mafia, after Tibbs had soft roleclaimed (he could have missed that, sure. But he also could have not missed it). He also implied I was claiming town by stating BK messaged me and my message assuming I might be dead, despite agreeing with my Follow The Cop suggestion-it plays it safe by supporting the pro-town plan I suggested but doesn't lend any credence to me being town by calling into question whether I am "confirmed town" (something I never tried to do, I hoped my behaviour would speak for itself).

There's my two cents. Kill Roy for inactivity if you really want to, my trust of him presupposes Prick being mafia so if you don't buy that then why not...but suppose he's The Chef and doesn't even get to do a last ditch role claim due to being inactive (which should only be a LAST RESORT for any Chefs out there. Like when you're one vote away from dying, not when you only have one vote) then he doesn't even get to protect Aragorn for a single night, meaning we get no concrete info tomorrow.

[weavo]

Yeah I guess I didn't read Tibbs saying he'd done his work for town as a roleclaim. I thought it meant trying to lynch Aragorn in the first place, but I could have been paying more attention. Anyway I agree that the way you're playing makes you likely to be town, Duck - I'm just aware that in the last game the mafia got pretty far by being the most vocal and active player, and the implication was definitely that all the stuff about the message makes you more trustworthy when it could easily be a big brain mafia play, which you'd be more than capable of.

But whatever. I don't think we'll learn anything concrete until, as Roger says, we find out who lives and dies on the following episode.

So Lynch Roy

[Dirty Duck]

Yeah I guess I didn't read Tibbs saying he'd done his work for town as a roleclaim. I thought it meant trying to lynch Aragorn in the first place, but I could have been paying more attention. Anyway I agree that the way you're playing makes you likely to be town, Duck - I'm just aware that in the last game the mafia got pretty far by being the most vocal and active player, and the implication was definitely that all the stuff about the message makes you more trustworthy when it could easily be a big brain mafia play, which you'd be more than capable of.

But whatever. I don't think we'll learn anything concrete until, as Roger says, we find out who lives and dies on the following episode.

So Lynch Roy

It was more so that nobody else could claim to have been messaged to try and wriggle out of something later on-why wouldn't I mention it immediately? The message aspect lends no credence to my points as receiving a message does not in any way shape or form make you town-it just makes you the person Bk chose. I also didn't want to type it out again lol

[Dirty Duck]

@Aragorn unlynch Roy until you've considered everything I've said please, next vote is the hammer

[Roy]

Woah, what the hell, this escalated.

I'm not inactive, it's been literally one day since we've been able to post again (mostly over UK night time) and you guys have gone post crazy (compared to the last game) in a way I wasn't expecting.

There's literally no logic for voting for me (which those that have voted for me have acknowledged) so that's very suspect.

There is someone who can confirm my identity, or I can role reveal, but it will be risky to me to do so if I can't convince you that I'm not town. I am not one of the two roles Duck asked about.

Let's unlynch me and actually discuss and let me defend myself before just lynching me for no reason without even letting me speak.

EDIT: I'm not sure a mafia would be stupid enough to be gloating about Aragorn being killed (my 'Null sends their regards message), and it was clear I was going to lynch Aragorn based on what happened with the last game

[Dirty Duck]

Roy, vote for Prick if you want to live.

@starschwar @Null @Mr. Tibbs @Aragorn come on guys, the Roy lynch train is woefully noncommittal. If Roy dies and is town, who do you even blame? Everyone has added a disclaimer to their vote that they don't even necessarily think he's mafia. At least if you lynch Prick and I'm wrong you can crucify me in the next day phase.