Let's talk Platinums

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Question for people who get platinum. Do you guys just use guides or try to figure it out yourselves? And does the time it takes to platinum something affect your wanting to platinum?

1. I'll do one playthrough of a game where I try and find all the collectibles and figure it out for myself, but then use a guide for repeat playthroughs. 

2. Depends on whether I feel like the timesink is respecting my time or not. A 100 hour game where every minute is a joy is fine, but if you're asking me to grind by collecting 1000 collectibles or kill 10000 enemies then I'm not going to entertain it.