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Global Politics - General Chat
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The insane thing is, for once, Trump is making good on his promises.  He vowed to destroy our already terrible economy with tariffs that would gut everyone's 401K's and retirements, and by god, he delivered.  Same with his bloody mass deportations that are seeing innocent people sent to a torture prison and him going back to bombing the middle east and threatening other countries because he doesn't understand anything.  The amount of swing voters to have come out and said "I didn't vote for this" is just absurd.  They literally did.  Crazy to think that under 230,000 votes in three swing states was all it took to prevent this.

I voted for Harris and got as many people around me as I could to do the same, but I didn't go into November optimistic.  At first, I kind of was, but the second Harris opened her mouth about Gaza, I was pretty much gearing up for a Trumpty-dumpty reunion.  Because Harris proved that she was just Biden in a younger package.  That DNC speech she gave made me sick when she started talking about having the most lethal military in the world and both sides-ing a one-sided conflict. 

I maintain that harm reduction matters, but to say that Trump managed to somehow be worse than Biden on Gaza doesn't yet mean a whole lot because the only real difference between them was Biden withholding the "Mother of all Bombs" that Trump is now giving the IDF.  And Biden not wanting ground troops in Gaza whereas Trump just said to get boots on the ground.  Biden was still aiding and abetting Netanyahu for thirteen straight months and Harris refused to budge an inch.  I would probably guess that AIPAC put the squeeze on her; that the whole reason they bothered ousting Bush and Bowman was a kind of warning to Harris, but if that were true, and she couldn't spin that, then that's just another testament to how weak so many of these establishment democrats are.

The problem with the United States is that, collectively, voters have a very poor memory.  Look at how many people have already forgotten about "SignalGate", or, more importantly, that Trump just straight up bombed innocent civilians in Yemen.  Didn't even last two weeks because there's always something new and horrible happening, and even the pain of these tariffs will be forgotten by voters sooner or later.  So even if democrats take over in 2026 and in 2028, I would bet that it's not going to be actual, transformative progressives taking over, but more status quo warriors like my dear publicity-seeking governor, Greasy Gavin.  None of them have the will or desire to finally stop arming and funding monsters like Netanyahu or the Saudi Prince.  Nor do they have the desire to actually address the issues back home.  And because the establishment liberals only want to do incremental change, voters will get dissatisfied and immediately vote republicans back into power.

It's going to take someone with policies that are actually transformative, like raising the minimum wage to a living wage, genuinely punishing price gougers and restoring a robust middle class to finally break this cycle of nonsense.  But so long as the establishment has its way, that's never gonna happen.

My hope is that, come 2028, either AOC or Tim Walz is our nominee because they're the only ones with the records and rhetoric of actually doing good by people.  But anyone else, and it's just a bandaid, and not even really that, since most establishment dems are almost as bad on foreign policy as the right is.
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Global Politics - General Chat - by Jassassino - 09-04-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Wayno - 09-04-2025, 05:29 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Bread - 09-04-2025, 06:41 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 09-04-2025, 05:29 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 09-04-2025, 05:51 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 09-04-2025, 05:59 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 09-04-2025, 06:48 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 10-04-2025, 01:58 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by NateDog - 10-04-2025, 08:59 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 10-04-2025, 11:41 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by BULUPTAX - 11-04-2025, 12:39 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 12-04-2025, 10:48 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 16-04-2025, 03:10 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Bread - 02-05-2025, 07:31 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Null - 03-05-2025, 04:31 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 04-06-2025, 06:31 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 05-06-2025, 01:10 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by NateDog - 05-06-2025, 08:10 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Null - 09-06-2025, 11:17 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 10-06-2025, 12:58 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 10-06-2025, 01:45 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 10-06-2025, 03:16 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 13-06-2025, 01:59 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 13-06-2025, 10:46 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 13-06-2025, 02:55 PM
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RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 14-06-2025, 04:33 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 15-06-2025, 08:21 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Wayno - 22-06-2025, 08:24 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by NateDog - 25-06-2025, 09:27 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Null - 16-07-2025, 12:45 PM
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RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Null - 26-08-2025, 09:32 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 03-09-2025, 04:50 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 29-08-2025, 07:08 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 11-09-2025, 07:20 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Wayno - 11-09-2025, 07:41 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Aragorn - 11-09-2025, 11:14 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 11-09-2025, 02:37 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Bread - 11-09-2025, 07:20 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 12-09-2025, 08:01 AM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 12-09-2025, 05:35 AM
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RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Wayno - 12-09-2025, 07:37 AM
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RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by tr0nic - 12-09-2025, 02:46 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 12-09-2025, 03:44 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Wayno - 12-09-2025, 03:10 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 12-09-2025, 03:26 PM
RE: Global Politics - General Chat - by Departed - 13-09-2025, 04:12 PM
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