MGF Mafia 3: The Woodsboro Murders

[Mr. Tibbs]

See spiderman meme above lol

One of us is mafia then and it's not me

[Roy]

I mean, there's a chance one or both of us are mistaken - unless I missed something, I was definitely told I'm Town without any further details about a role by Duck.

I'll wait for Duck to confirm rules before I confirm lynching you.

[Dirty Duck]

Some players do not have an Archetype, but it is up to you to decide how many you think there likely are.

[Mr. Tibbs]

I thought it was just the one. But now I'm confused I need to go count the dead lol

[Annoying Prick]

One of you must be lying.

There are six people. I'm confirmed to be The Stoner and Aragorn is confirmed fo be The Final Girl. We know The Gossip and The Killer are in play. That leaves two people with two mystery roles left. Roger claims The Virgin so there can only be one unroled person. The only way the liar would have gotten away with this would be if we didn't know The Gossip was in play.

Unfortunately between the two of you I'm more inclined to think Tibbs is mafia. He was more reluctant to role reveal, he was the slowest to lynch BB88, he in fact was way less active when BB88 was more active which makes me think mafia was betting on his plan and Roy's response there seemed pretty genuine.

Let's wait for star to role claim before voting though.

[Annoying Prick]

Sorry for double posting, I just think this is better said as a separate post.

I went back to check the responses to BB88. Here is Roy's lynch vote for BB88, a full six hours before BB88 killed Weavo:






There is absolutely no reason for a mafia to make that play. BB88 was not at all widely suspected at that time. Weavo and I had lynch voted him but half the players hadn't shown up yet and BB88 had not performed the murder of Weavo yet in front of us all, which is essentially what confirmed he was mafia.

Now here is the response of Tibbs, about 14 hours after BB88 killed Weavo:




He turned up really late, claiming to just be inactive. But even after we had been told by Duck that Weavo was killed by BB88 he still tried to defend him, saying that he was likely town and trying to deflect suspicion to other players. He only changed his mind once I presented undeniable evidence that BB88 had done the killing and then tried to frame me, saying he was "overthinking it" and he couldn't see how a town would kill someone and then deflect the blame.

Surely this confirms that Tibbs is mafia. Either he or Roy is and Roy has made decisions that I do not think a mafia player ever would. That combined with everything else I said in my previous post confirms it. I still want to wait to see what Star says, we might be able to identify them both in this phase.

[Mr. Tibbs]

I think you're missing a good bit here tbh

For one thing, I didn't defend BB88, I was just working out my thoughts and was confused over the exact details of what had just transpired as I think everyone was for a minute. I would expect that someone who was in the mafia with BB would have had a better idea of what the actual plan was and wouldn't risk caution. When I said we're "overthinking" it I meant that it was obvious that BB88 was mafia. In the same post I said that I voted to lynch him lol. I think you're just going on vibes and grasping at straws a bit to be completely honest. I believe that you're town but I think you're making a mistake here. Roy could have easily decided to turn on BB early knowing he was about to out himself surely.

As for comparing timestamps, I don't see the value in that. I can only visit the forums when I do and I started catching up on what happened in reverse order so I'm not really sure what that's supposed to prove. I obviously understand from an outside perspective it's a 50/50 play for the remaining mafia and Roy and I are pointing fingers at each other but since I'm townie I'd urge you to think this through a little more carefully


Just for clarity what I meant here was "There's absolutely no reason for a townie to do what BB88 just did so he's obviously mafia" 

[Annoying Prick]

I think you're missing a good bit here tbh

For one thing, I didn't defend BB88, I was just working out my thoughts and was confused over the exact details of what had just transpired as I think everyone was for a minute. I would expect that someone who was in the mafia with BB would have had a better idea of what the actual plan was and wouldn't risk caution. When I said we're "overthinking" it I meant that it was obvious that BB88 was mafia. In the same post I said that I voted to lynch him lol. I think you're just going on vibes and grasping at straws a bit to be completely honest. I believe that you're town but I think you're making a mistake here. Roy could have easily decided to turn on BB early knowing he was about to out himself surely.

As for comparing timestamps, I don't see the value in that. I can only visit the forums when I do and I started catching up on what happened in reverse order so I'm not really sure what that's supposed to prove. I obviously understand from an outside perspective it's a 50/50 play for the remaining mafia and Roy and I are pointing fingers at each other but since I'm townie I'd urge you to think this through a little more carefully


Just for clarity what I meant here was "There's absolutely no reason for a townie to do what BB88 just did so he's obviously mafia" 

I understand what you meant by that post where you lynched BB88. What implicates you is that you only said it after I had presented undeniable evidence that BB88 was mafia. Before that you were trying to sow doubt still.

Look it really doesn't matter what you posted at the end of the day. Even if the timestamps of your posts suggest nothing because you read the forum posts backwards (which frankly doesn't excuse you because in that first post you directly acknowledge that BB88 killed Weavo and then still somehow conclude that he's most likely town) the same can't be said for Roy. There would be absolutely zero reason for mafia to jump into a lynch vote on BB88 at that stage of the day phase, before Weavo had been killed and anything had been proven. I don't think there is anything you can say to convince me otherwise and I won't blame myself for lynching you even if you are town because there's no other sensible way to read the evidence at this point. Either you or Roy are mafia and I can't do anything else but assume you are the mafia based on Roy's lynch vote against BB88. If Roy is mafia then he is either clairvoyant and knew the next day phase would come to this, which seems really unlikely, or he made an insanely bad play in the last day phase which just so happened to pan out by sheer luck for him in this day phase. Both of those possibilities seem far less likely than him lynching BB88 because he is not mafia.

[Mr. Tibbs]

I mean, you can take it however you want I guess I'm not your lawyer. But I wasn't calling for BB to be spared, just thinking out loud. I still think it's Roy, so I'm gonna vote for him and we'll see what everyone else does lol. I think it's a little silly to assume that I only "changed my mind after being presented with evidence" as if getting clarification of what just happened isn't supposed to be helpful but I digress we're just going in circles.

Lynch Roy

Also just to harp on this again " acknowledge that BB88 killed Weavo and then still somehow conclude that he's most likely town"
This is not remotely what I said. What I said was, this move was out of character from how I remember BB88 and that it was odd. I was under the impression that he'd used a gun the same as Aragorn and was wondering if he just did something dumb. Once I realized there was a clarification that he obviously stabbed someone and then tried to pin the blame elsewhere I voted to lynch. There's no time limit on the day phases, so I don't understand why you're taking someone being cautious as concluding he was "most likely town" (I never said those words)

[Annoying Prick]

I think you're focusing on details of my analysis in isolation that are only notable in context with the other bits of evidence on purpose. If anyone can convincingly explain why Roy would have voted BB88 at that stage in the game I'd be willing to change my decision.

I don't want to vote. I really want Star to role claim. But I'l vote in a few hours if he doesn't show up.